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Postby kupo » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:33 pm

They are pissing me off too much.
Piss yourselves off instead.
I don't care who actually thinks this is an effective way of reaching out to someone. I really don't like my mother for sending this senseless, hypocritical CRAP.

FEATURE THE GREAT KIRK CAMERON.
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Postby Skimba » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:43 pm

Maybe tomorrow at work, koops.
I'll keep you informed of my progress.
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Postby sum yun gai » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:02 pm

i couldn't even get through the intro to the evolution one. sorry....
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Postby Dusk » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:03 pm

I closed it after 10 seconds.
Sorry.

I really get the impression that if someone waved a suitcase full of money under Kirk's nose, he'd star in hardcore porn or a Mormon-slaying action/horror movie.

I'm curious to know what your reply is to these emails.
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Postby ntw3001 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:05 pm

I can't see them. Unless they're supposed to be a black screen, and I don't see how anyone could be so annoyed about it if that were the case. Or how they could star Kirk Cameron, or anyone.
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Postby Chrono Crow » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:12 pm

Yeah, I saw what was coming and immediately shut it off. You should totally goatse your mom.
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Postby giantsfan97 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:52 pm

Dusk Bringer wrote:I really get the impression that if someone waved a suitcase full of money under Kirk's nose, he'd star in hardcore porn or a Mormon-slaying action/horror movie.
He's actually hardcore religious, I doubt he did these for the money.


The intro to the evolution one is hilarious!


edit: ROFL everyone PLEASE go to 1:47 of the evolution one... they interview "believers" of the theory of evolution and wonder why so many of them don't fully know what they are talking about... LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THEY INTERVIEW! Some kid on an airplane? A frat boy? A BLONDE??? lolololol
I love this post so much I'm going to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant!
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Postby ntw3001 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:15 am

I so much want to watch these. GOD WHY ARE YOU SO CRUEL
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Postby Gelatine Cow » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:24 am

giantsfan97 wrote:The intro to the evolution one is hilarious!

Hahahaha. It's also great that it applies better to religion than evolution. "Contradiction... defies logic, and is based on blind faith... whose limits, are that of imagination."
Curse you religion with your cold hard facts and delicious physical proof!
And that's terrible.
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Postby Chrono Crow » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:28 am

ntw3001 wrote:I so much want to watch these. GOD WHY ARE YOU SO CRUEL


Because you believe in evolution, of course.

Though, he'd be crueler to let you watch them. So yeah, God. You kick ass. Well, if you existed.
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Postby Gelatine Cow » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:39 am

Hahahahahaha, the bit where he compares evolution from apes (or monkeys, he doesn't seem to care about the distinction) to biplanes versus jumbo jets is great. "Does that mean the jet evolved from the little biplane? Not at all!" Actually, it did you silly silly man. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ELABORATE BECAUSE THEN I'D BE ARGUING WITH SOMEONE WHO WON'T EVEN READ THIS.

This guy has to be the world's greatest comedian.
And that's terrible.
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Postby kzager » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:10 am

This isn't another one of those videos where they say that evolution is random chance, are they?

And the ones where they say that because something is a theory means that it's wrong because the other way (which is 100% faith based) says that it knows solid answers?

And the ones where they say that evolution can't exist with creation theory?

[watches a little]

Okay. Evolution theory ≠ Big bang theory

[watches some more]

Oh wow. People on the streets [some of which I'd be surprised if they have a high school diploma] are not experts. Amazing discovery you guys!

Also, why is it always man evolving from apes? What about dogs evolving from wolves or something like that?

FUN THING ABOUT EVOLUTIONARY THEORY: The theory of evolution says that biological beings on earth evolve at some rate. It does not say that man evolved from ape, it does not suggest how the earth was formed, and it most certainly doesn't say any higher power could not of existed because evolution is true. It's not like from just fossil records we can say, "this is your exact family record going from unicellular organism to your current human form."

[watches more]

"The big problem evolutionists have is that they're finding a huge gap in the fossil record."


It's not like everything turns into the fossil. The conditions need to be just perfect for that to happen. Not to mention that 3/4 of all fossils that they do find are entirely incomplete.

"There's nothing to link apes to human."

Cro-Magnon? Neanderthal? Lucy?

[A bunch of BS on how the fossils of these species were all humans or chimps.]

Alright, for those things I'd need to see their sources because I looked it up and I couldn't find anything saying that Lucy was a 3 foot tall chimp, I couldn't find anything saying that they confused one of the many Neanderthal fossils with an old man that had arthritis.

(comparing two models of planes) "does this mean that the jet evolved from the little biplane?"


No, but they both evolved from a common ancestor (the first working airplane) which is the same thing they say about us and chimps. Not that we evolved from chimps because that would be impossible. It's similar to this argument: "So you and your cousin are related?" "Yes." "Did you give birth to your cousin?" "No." "Well then you're not related."

[Science damnit why am I still watching this]

OMG!!!1 AIRLINES WON'T LET NON-HUMANS ON BOARD THE AIRLINE? EVOLUTION IS A LIE! Next.

"There are some scientists that would have us believe that primeapes are just about as intelligent as human beings."


...Who?

I mean... relatively speaking... but...

"So Kirk and I took an orangutan to lunch to see if it was true."


... seriously?

[a couple minutes of that, ignoring the reference to the 10 comandments]

Somebody teach this orangutan some table manners!

"You don't get Orangutans forming themselves into an orchestra [...] this isn't because he's a prehistoric man that is less evolved than us."


So let me get this straight what their view of Evolution is: things evolve so that they can play double bass?

[something about Darwin being sexist]

How does that support your theory again?

"Charles Darwin wants us to believe that black people are less evolved than whites"


Nonsense, I see black people in orchestras all the time.

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There's one right the-
...Oh my.

[Trying to disprove evolution with an evolution proponent saying that it's an unprovable theory]

Well, yeah, that's the whole point of theories - that they're not laws. And it's not like you can expect humans to know everything about everything. We are human, after all.

"A wise man said, 'man will believe anything as long as it's not in The Bible.' Unfortunately, that is so true."


Ha. Like your arguments?

Wait. Woah woah woah. I thought the whole point of ID was to avoid mentioning The Bible.

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What was your product again?

"The parrot that's on your arm God created, how could science make a parrot?"

Well, when one male parrot loves a female parrot of the same species...
Oh gee this is going to be hard.

Also, that's a very bold assumption to say that that parrot was born of immaculate conception. Most creationists fall flat at, "God created parrots."

[by not talking about evolution] It also means I don't have to learn words like Rhinoracathactasarus

I'm sure people talk to you about that one all the time.

[Metaphor involving a plane and a parachute - plane representing the earth which is apparently going to crash, the parachute being faith in God]
Reasons to put on parachute:
1) The maker of the plane has his name written all over it.
2) It's a new plane.

Next.

[Starts asking a people if they're a good person based on the 10 commandments]

Objection! Relevance.
But let's have fun with this argument anyways.

[Says that you won't go to hell if you sin if you believe in Jesus]

Note: This is how some people justify murders.

Conclusion:
First off, get your message straight. Are you selling Creationist theory? Intelligent Design? Catholicism?

Based off of what they were saying, there's no way that creation theory can disprove evolutionary theory. Creation theory says that a higher power (in their case, God) created everything. Why couldn't those things of gone on and evolved via natural and artificial selection? Why is it impossible to believe even something as simple as all species of horse evolved from the same base species? Why is it so hard to believe that all domesticated animals didn't exist until humans started artificially selecting them? Why is it so hard to believe that dramatic changes in the earth's climate wouldn't influence any kind of change in its inhabitants?

Two problems with chicken vs. the egg: 1) Things do not evolve separately from their group. They would evolve as a group and very very slowly over periods of millions of years and generations upon generations of unmeasurable changes. 2) These changes are so small and happening so readily that it'd be hard to pinpoint exactly when something became a species. That is to say that every species is an intermediate species. Grizzly bears are different species than they were 2 generations ago - even if the change is undetectable and they seem to be the same godless killing machines that they are there's still slightly different than the other generations of grizzlies because of whatever reason - climate changes, changes in food supply - whatever.

Lastly, Evolutionary Theory has empirical evidence. Even if you do have to stretch the imagination to believe some of the things that Evolutionists have come up with, it's still more than creationists have for their 100% faith based ideas.



Appendix:
Evolution: A change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species.

Evolution is a theory, but that doesn't mean that it is wrong. Theories are a mechanism for finding new facts, theories, and hypothesis.
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Postby Dusk » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:12 am

I swear, he is in it for the money and it has got him more than any decidedly unpleasant tv show or b-grade movies would have.
He's shaking hands with swooning, glassy-eyed, Christian virgin-girls and bowing before congregations, then going back to his hotel room, emptying the mini bar and laughing until he gives himself a headache.
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Postby kzager » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:12 am

Wow. That was a lot more that I wrote than I thought. Sorry - I'm used to writing essays on this stuff.
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Postby loofah » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:48 am

'sarite. You took the words right out of my mouth.
(I wish I'd had that sort of critical thinking when I was your age.)
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Postby Jemry » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:25 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTN8Re1izg youtube link coz I couldn't get the site vid to work
http://www.myspace.com/jemry C WHUT I DID THAR. I'M SO DECEPTIVE.

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Postby Zombie Protestor » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:08 am

draculahunter wrote:Based off of what they were saying, there's no way that creation theory can disprove evolutionary theory.

Main problem with radical creationists is that they believe that evolutionists are actively trying to debunk God with every waking moment, and only their attempts at using science to combat science will stop those Evilutionists from taking over the world.
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10"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."


and take the quote to mean that they should attack things that they perceive to offend God, and if they meet resistance, that must mean that they are right.

The truth is that when God created this world, he knew exactly what manners of abominations humankind would eventually stoop to. Attempted genocide, torture, war, and even some depravities I'm sure I'm missing. Yet he still loves us through all of this, to the point of sending his son into the world as an atoning sacrifice to cover over the abominable things that every one of us has done on some level. That's the real message of the Bible. Humankind is a force that can commit every manner of depravity under the sun, yet our creator continues to love us in the same manner that a parent still loves a child that has committed a great wrong. Christians are not to go out and find people who we perceive to be wrong and attack them; we're to realize that we are all equally undeserving of love and grace, and that none of us have a clue of what we're doing.

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Postby Daniel. » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:41 am

This is quite funny. I love the whole smugness in their tone, it's like a child trying to discredit runner beans.
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Postby Lambs_Cows_Lambs » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:46 am

My school's computers are not good enough quality to watch those probably wretched videos, so instead I'm going to share this with you... though I think I may have before, buttttt it's amazing so you get to see it twice.

ATHEIST'S WORST NIGHTMARE!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A&feature=related

Don't worry. Here's someone with a brain.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aLqQttJinjo&feature=related
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Postby Daniel. » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:56 am

Hahaha, I love how they're trying to sell the banana as if it's some kind of innovation.

Also, one of the YouTubers is right, did God make the Kiwi fruit nice and easy? Like fork he did. I love Kiwi, but I always struggle with it.
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Postby kzager » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:02 am

Lambs_Cows_Lambs wrote:ATHEIST'S WORST NIGHTMARE!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A&feature=related


Oh my god!(sorry) I heard about that from somebody - I thought they were joking!
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Postby Lambs_Cows_Lambs » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:07 am

If only.
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Postby EvilJekyll » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:37 am

draculahunter wrote:Why is it so hard to believe that all domesticated animals didn't exist until humans started artificially selecting them?

There's some Russian scientist who actually tried to reverse breed wild wolves(?). He also bred hypersensitive ones that would attack humans if they had the chance.
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Postby Saltine » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:42 am

I've been sick with some kind of intestinal flu and I have the sense that watching any of the videos linked here will not help.

I think creationists are right to feel threatened by evolution, though. While it is true that evolution does not disprove the existence of God, it certainly does take away a lot of His "oomph". Science has consistently chased God back into the dark alleys and crevices of unobservability. My guess is that most religious people would not be happy with a God whose résumé is blank except for some physical constant tuning fifteen billion years ago.
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Postby James » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:13 pm

I've seen it before. It's frustratingly silly, though. God really doesn't want us eating fish.

It's actually a similar sort of reasoning to that Westboro church thing. People die because AMERICA SUPPORTS FAGGOTS. How did you work that one out? Well, people die, and AMERICA SUPPORTS FAGGOTS (debatable, obviously, but whatever). What about all the other people who die? What about when you die? How can you possibly pick individual things and hope to prove that everything is the work of a creator? That's like saying that because on the odd occasion someone gets struck by lightning, God hates humanity and is punishing us all.

I'm not making my point very well. But at least I realize that.
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