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Some sketches that I'd like feedback on.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:31 pm
by Uberlizzard
... not my idea... please be nice

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sketches for my sketch book.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:40 pm
by Chrono Crow
THESE AREN'T FUNNY AT ALL.

You're a good artist.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:46 pm
by Uberlizzard
thank you. :)

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:50 pm
by kupo
I love the foot.

Feet are hard to draw.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:52 pm
by Null
These are very good indeed.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:57 pm
by Low-Tech
kupo wrote:I love the foot.

Feet are hard to draw.


One of these days I'll learn to draw hands good enough that my characters will stop putting them in thier pockets all the time

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:10 pm
by kzager
Those look real great. throw in some shadows to give a sense of place and whatnot.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:38 pm
by Uberlizzard
first of all, Thank you!
The feedback is much appreciated.

I'm kind of working my way up to drawing a whole person so i'm taking it a piece at a time.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:45 am
by Null
The human parts and the bench are all great. The camera is pretty good, but it kinds of looks...drawing-y. It looks less like an observation and more like someone thought, "I know what a camera looks like, I'll draw that." I think Drac is right, some shadows would make them even better. And some context, too.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:49 am
by Chrono Crow
Null wrote:The human parts and the bench are all great. The camera is pretty good, but it kinds of looks...drawing-y. It looks less like an observation and more like someone thought, "I know what a camera looks like, I'll draw that."


The text likely adds to that.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:05 am
by Null
Chrono Crow wrote:
Null wrote:The human parts and the bench are all great. The camera is pretty good, but it kinds of looks...drawing-y. It looks less like an observation and more like someone thought, "I know what a camera looks like, I'll draw that."


The text likely adds to that.

No, it's not that...I'm not sure how to explain it. There's are "senses" that I get from works that tells me, "This was drawn from careful observation" or "This was drawn based on what the artist knew was expected or needed." That may not be the case at all in any of these works, but I definitely get the latter from the Sony pic. While the foot, hand, baby face and so forth don't give me that.

It's probably that my Null-sense needs to be tuned, it has been a while...and ooh, I got a 20% discount coupon in the mail today! So I'll know if my observation is totally wrong in a few days.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:07 am
by reo01
Very nicely done! I particularly like the bench.
And feet are hard to draw.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:14 am
by Null
Feet (and hands) are easier than you might think. Yes, they're hard, but hardest of all are eyes. Hands and feet are complicated machines, but machines have parts that can be understood if you know the means by which they move. Eyes can really reveal a person, and when drawn, the eyes have got to be exact. You can have someone hide their hands behind their back and still have a good portrait. I've had portraits die hard deaths because the eyes just weren't right.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:18 am
by reo01
Oh so true.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:33 am
by kzager
If you want to do full people, start by doing some gestural sketches.
Something like this:

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It can even be simpler than that, just like a bendy stick figure. But start there and you'd be better off than starting out trying to get ears and stuff right.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:41 am
by kzager
some more examples:
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Notice on this last one how they have thick lines going roughly where the spine/shoulder bones/leg and hip bones would go. You would do these first and then map in the rest of the figure.

Hope that helps.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:00 am
by James
Null wrote:
Chrono Crow wrote:
Null wrote:The human parts and the bench are all great. The camera is pretty good, but it kinds of looks...drawing-y. It looks less like an observation and more like someone thought, "I know what a camera looks like, I'll draw that."


The text likely adds to that.

No, it's not that...I'm not sure how to explain it. There's are "senses" that I get from works that tells me, "This was drawn from careful observation" or "This was drawn based on what the artist knew was expected or needed." That may not be the case at all in any of these works, but I definitely get the latter from the Sony pic. While the foot, hand, baby face and so forth don't give me that.

It's probably that my Null-sense needs to be tuned, it has been a while...and ooh, I got a 20% discount coupon in the mail today! So I'll know if my observation is totally wrong in a few days.

I don't know if perspective is anything to do with it, but that seems slightly off, particularly on the wheel thing on the top.

These are good, though.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:55 am
by Zombie Protestor
Uberlizzard wrote:I'm kind of working my way up to drawing a whole person so i'm taking it a piece at a time.

FRANKENSTEIN.

I think the bench and camera are slightly out of line (that's the best way I can think of to put it. Skewed, maybe?), but the living bits are well-drawn.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:16 pm
by Uberlizzard
Thanks guys! I really do appreciate it.

part of why the living bits look better is because there really aren't any straight lines that you have to worry about. With the camera, I actually spent a lot of time drawing that while looking at my camera but because its a (roughly) square object, and I didn't get the perspective just right, it looks slightly off. Same with the bench.

Thats part of why I like organic shapes: you can fudge the shape around a little and it still looks good. well... it still looks like it's supposed to anyway.

I actually started doing the rough line frames for a person but without a living, moving model to work with they kind of didn't turn out so well. Once the weather stays nice around here for more than a day I'm probably going to go to a park and try again.

Again, thanks for all the help! :D

P.S. Dracula, did you do those drawings? 'cause they're really good.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:08 pm
by MysticalDescent
I think your best two here are the foot and the hand. It's not often you see either of them well drawn.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:35 pm
by kzager
Uberlizzard wrote:P.S. Dracula, did you do those drawings? 'cause they're really good.


I wish.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:29 am
by Zombie Protestor
MysticalDescent wrote:I think your best two here are the foot and the hand. It's not often you see either of them well drawn.

I like the babby the best.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:56 am
by Uberlizzard
thats my babby brother. He's cute.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:51 pm
by kzager
What is babby?

I am ccoonnffuusseedd.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:02 am
by Portals
draculahunter wrote:What is babby?

I am ccoonnffuusseedd.


I think that 'babby' is a britishism for 'baby', seeing as how I've only seen it outside of forums in a British series (Diskworld). Oh well, I spell it 'colour' and I'm American, and we're supposed to spell it 'color'... Potato, Potahto, such is life.