Poetry is art, too

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Postby Dusk » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:19 am

If you guys released that as a The Wrong Treatment spoken word EP, you would make some serious money.
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Postby fanelian » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:06 am

James, It is true, you can make anything sound like poetry! :)
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Postby James » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:18 am

fanelian wrote:James, It is true, you can make anything sound like poetry! :)

. . . and any poetry like joke poetry.
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Postby mez » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:38 am

A -> B
B -> C

∴ A-> C

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Postby James » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:52 am

That's reflexivity!

What are you referring to, though?
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Postby coeurpur » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:33 pm

kupo wrote:
Dusk Bringer wrote:
James wrote:TOMORROW.


Just sayin'.


Your a parent. You should know that "tomorrow" always basically means "eventually."

"Mommy can we go to the park?"
"Tomorrow."


"Daddy, can you play a game with me?"
"Tomorrow."


Amazing.

In farsi, common language spoken in Persia, same word

" Farda "

means "tomorrow" and also "never"

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Postby James » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:35 pm

coeurpur wrote:In farsi, common language spoken in Persia, same word

" Farda "

means "tomorrow" and also "never"

...

That's fantastic!

An example of procrastination built into a language, perhaps? . . .

(Not that I wish to imply any sort of tendencies towards procrastination in speakers of the language or any people associated with it. How would I know, after all?)
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Postby kupo » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:43 pm

coeurpur wrote:Amazing.

In farsi, common language spoken in Persia, same word

" Farda "

means "tomorrow" and also "never"

...


Hahha then the parents who speak Farsi are lucky.
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Postby mez » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:20 pm

James wrote:That's reflexivity! What are you referring to, though?


A-> B: James, it is true, you can make anything sound like poetry!
B -> C: James said: . . . and any poetry like joke poetry.
∴ A -> C: James can make anything sound like joke poetry.

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Postby James » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:11 pm

DOES NOT FOLLOW! You are equating things I make sound like poetry with actual poetry. Whilst I can make anything sound like actual poetry, I only stated that I could make actual poetry sound like joke poetry.

That said, I can make anything sound like joke poetry. It's my superpower.
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Postby mez » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:53 pm

Good attempt sir, but you are wrong.

Given thing, you can create thing that sounds like poetry.

Consider that art is entirely subjective (and failing that we have artistic license which tells us that if you, the artist, create something which you believe sounds like poetry, then it is poetry... if you say so)
It follows then that any thing that sounds like poetry is, in fact, poetry, for those who subscribe to the quality of it "sounding like poetry"

So... given that a thing that sounds like poetry is in fact a thing of type poetry and that you can create joke poetry from poetry, it then follows that given any thing you can create joke poetry.

:shock:

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Postby James » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:25 pm

mez wrote:Consider that art is entirely subjective (and failing that we have artistic license which tells us that if you, the artist, create something which you believe sounds like poetry, then it is poetry... if you say so)

This premise is far from universally accepted. As part of my philosophy degree I did a module on aesthetics and the arts, which was concerned almost entirely with the definition of art. A lot of people seemed to hink that there was some sort of objective truth to artistic criticism. I'm not so sure about that, but it's a bold premise anyhow.

Secondly, the definition of 'sounds like' is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily mean that the two sound identical; merely similar. Some birds have learnt to mimic modems, but it would be possible to distinguish between the two sounds.

Anyway, who's saying everything is poetry? I'm not.

This is all incredibly silly.

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Postby mez » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:53 pm

Silly? SILLY? This isn't silly, it's funny :D

I don't know anything about art, and all I studied at Uni was Maths/Physics/Programming... so when I make a statement like:

"Consider that art is entirely subjective" ... I'm really just messing about in boats.

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Postby James » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:58 pm

mez wrote:Silly? SILLY? This isn't silly, it's funny :D

Of course, I'm forgetting that funny things are entirely serious.

mez wrote:I don't know anything about art, and all I studied at Uni was Maths/Physics/Programming... so when I make a statement like:

"Consider that art is entirely subjective" ... I'm really just messing about in boats.

Hah! You science majors and your . . . jobs.
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Postby mez » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:12 pm

James wrote:Of course, I'm forgetting that funny things are entirely serious.
*shakes fist*

James wrote:Hah! You science majors and your . . . jobs.
I've been discovered!

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Postby fanelian » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:48 pm

Translation of one of my favorite poems, by Gustavo Adolfo Becquer, which was brought to my mind by the discussion between James and Mez:

RHYME IV

Do not say that, exhausted of its treasure,
there is lack of subject matter to silence poetry;
we may not have poets;
but there will always be poetry.

As long as the kiss ignites the heart with
waves of light,
as long as the sun dresses the torn clouds
with fire and gold,
as long the air carries perfumes and
harmonies in its lap,
as long there is spring in the world,
There will be poetry!

As long as science does not discover
the origins of life,
and in the sea or in the heaven there is an abyss that cannot be calculated;
as long as the always advancing humanity
does not know where it's heading;
as long as there is a mystery for man,
There will be poetry!

As long as we feel that the soul rejoices,
without the lips laughing;
as long as we can cry without the tears
blurring our vision;
as long as the heart and the brain
continue struggling;
as long as there is hope and remembrances,
There will be poetry!

As long as there are eyes that reflect
the eyes that look at them,
as long as the lip responds sighing
to the lip that sighs,
as long as two confused souls can
in a kiss feel themselves,
as long as there is a beautiful woman,
There will be poetry!

The original, in spanish. (I didn't translate, I googled for it.)
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Postby Chrono Crow » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:31 am

Yeah, I know. My poetry sucks. And with the lack of taste these days, it would seem that all poetry sucks. But I wrote a new poem, and I figured I'd share it, anyway.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50328460/
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Postby Binkatron5000 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:47 am

Not to be insulting to all of your fantastic poetry, but I thought this image would go well here (courtesy of toothpastefordinner.com)

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Postby James » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:37 am

That's plain lovely.

Not you, Matt.
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Postby giantsfan97 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:16 pm

James wrote:That's plain lovely.

Not you, Matt.


Is that why you don't look at him during?
I love this post so much I'm going to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant!

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Postby Binkatron5000 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:16 pm

giantsfan97 wrote:
James wrote:That's plain lovely.

Not you, Matt.


Is that why you don't look at him during?


*cue piss*
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Postby James » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:37 pm

giantsfan97 wrote:Is that why you don't look at him during?

HE'S PLAYING A ROLE AND IF I SEE HIS FACE THE ILLUSION WILL BE RUINED.
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Postby Chrono Crow » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:05 pm

Binkatron5000 wrote:
giantsfan97 wrote:
James wrote:That's plain lovely.

Not you, Matt.


Is that why you don't look at him during?


*cue piss*


*mole piss*
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Postby giantsfan97 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:46 pm

Chrono Crow wrote:*mole piss*
:(
I love this post so much I'm going to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant!

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Postby Dusk » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:21 pm

Could this thread be any more depressing?

::reads Chrono's poem::
OH MAN.

::looks at Chrono's recent song list::
OH MAN
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